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'''This article may have a few very confusing parts... Try to ignore the stuff you don't understand, and rather just try the step-by-step instructions further down'''
== Not really random ==
== Not really random ==
The random number generator in roblox does seem to generate random numbers.  
The random number generator in roblox does seem to generate random numbers.  
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Everytime a script in a place does math.random(), the random generator generates a random number. If this is done at exactly the same time, with exactly the same random numbers everytime, then the random number sequence will be the same every time (like the test at the top of this page).<br/>
Everytime a script in a place does math.random(), the random generator generates a random number. If this is done at exactly the same time, with exactly the same random numbers everytime, then the random number sequence will be the same every time (like the test at the top of this page).<br/>
However, if you were able to make the place generate random numbers at random times (in addition to your normal random generations), then the sequence of random numbers would change, right? Yes! <br/>
However, if you were able to make the place generate random numbers at random times (in addition to your normal random generations), then the sequence of random numbers would change, right? Yes! <br/>
But the problem is (difficult sentence warning), if the randomly generated randomizing of the random number generator is the same everytime it randomizes something, then the sequence will still be the same every time!
The problem is, if the randomly generated randomizing of the random number generator is the same everytime it randomizes something, then the sequence will still be the same every time!
Ok, that was a difficult sentence to swallow.....
 
'''If you are confused by now, try to ignore the parts you don't understand, and just follow the techniques below!'''


== How to generate TRULY random numbers ==
== How to generate TRULY random numbers ==
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Everytime someone steps on this brick, the random-number generator will be randomized.
Everytime someone steps on this brick, the random-number generator will be randomized.
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Revision as of 07:32, 3 July 2008

Not really random

The random number generator in roblox does seem to generate random numbers. But do a test, and insert this script into your place:

for i = 1, 10 do
print(math.random(1,100))
wait(1)
end

Test the place, and look at the output window. Write down the numbers you get, and exit the test. Then do the test again, and again write down the numbers you get. Notice something weird? Those 10 very random numbers are exactly the same everytime you run a test (or play online for that matter).

This article explains how to achieve truly random numbers that are NEVER the same for every time a place is played

The General idea

Everytime a script in a place does math.random(), the random generator generates a random number. If this is done at exactly the same time, with exactly the same random numbers everytime, then the random number sequence will be the same every time (like the test at the top of this page).
However, if you were able to make the place generate random numbers at random times (in addition to your normal random generations), then the sequence of random numbers would change, right? Yes!
The problem is, if the randomly generated randomizing of the random number generator is the same everytime it randomizes something, then the sequence will still be the same every time!

How to generate TRULY random numbers

You need to make a script do math.random(x,y) at atleast one TRULY random time, and then the rest of the randomized numbers will be truly random. Scripting is, of course, needed to make this happen. Some truly random events can be things like:

  • Number of players in your place
  • Players movement
  • Other real-life influences on the game

There are 3 things this can influence that in general will make stuff very random: math.random(x,y)

  • If you change either x or y (random numbers min and max)
  • If you change when the math.random happens
  • If you change how often the math.random happens

If you can find a way to make something truly random influence any of the three listed items, then you will be able to generate truly random numbers!

Example 1

Have a script in workspace that checks for number of players in the game every 10 seconds or so, then does a math.random() code based on the number of players.

while true do
players = game.Players:getChildren()
wait(10)
if #players > 0 then
math.random(1, #players)
end

"#players" means "number of players". We don't need to remember the random number we generate. It is enough to just generate a number to make the random number generator randomized. Also note, that if the number of players in a place is the same at all the same times every time, then the random numbers will be the same every time too.

Example 2

You don't really need to do anything more than in Example 1, but these extra examples are included for the more interested people.
This script is even more randomized, and even randomizes the time between each randomization:

while true do
players = game.Players:getChildren()
wait(math.random(1,#players))
if #players > 0 then
math.random(1, #players)
end

Also here, note, that if the number of players in a place is the same at all the same times every time, then the random numbers will be the same every time too.

Example 3

You don't really need to do anything more than in Example 1, but these extra examples are included for the more interested people.
Alternatively, you could randomize numbers based on players movement by putting this touch-script into a brick that players walk across now and then (maybe a baseplate?)

local debounce = 0
function onTouch(hit)
if debounce == 0 then
debounce = 1
if hit.Parent:findFirstChild("Humanoid") ~= nil then
math.random(1,100)
end
debounce = 0
end
end
script.Parent.Touched:connect(onTouch)

Everytime someone steps on this brick, the random-number generator will be randomized.